Neve/Lucanis is Hardened, What Does That Mean? – Dragon Age: The Veilguard

If you just completed “On Blighted/Deadly Wings” questline that forces you to choose between either helping Treviso or Minrathous, you might be surprised to find that one of your companions (Neve or Lucanis, in particular) is now ico hardeningHardened. The game will explain that this happens from them witnessing their city under the blighted dragon attack, and it comes with some noticeable mechanical effects, especially if you planned on bringing either of the two with you in the future.

In this guide we will go over the effects (both positive and negative), how you can plan around them, and then note a couple of differences between the two Hardened companions.

ico hardeningHardened Effect

minrathous treviso choice lucanis or neve hardened effect dragon age veilguard

The companion you do not assist in the quest (Neve or Lucanis) becomes ico hardeningHardened:

  • They will no longer use supportive abilities (their healing skill tree). The skill points spent there will be refunded.
  • Damaging abilities are more effective (specifically, all of the Damage vs. Barrier passive skills for both, and also Cooldown duration for Neve only)
  • Relationship progress is slower
  • And, another notable exception (unless it gets patched in the future): you are free to still pursue your Romance with Neve, but Lucanis “no longer has time for a romance with you”.

This effect will not go away later in the game.

Let’s explore each of these in turn, starting with the locked Ability trees and boosted Skills.

Neve‘s Healing ability tree is no longer available, but all of her Damage vs. Barrier and Cooldown duration Passives for other Abilities get buffed (the game doesn’t specify by how much).

icon nev abi healReplenish Ability — skilltree follower skill lockedLocked

icon nev abi heal

Replenish, Healing
Companion Ability
Cooldown: 36 Seconds

The streets of Minrathous and well beyond require an abundance of caution.
Neve always comes prepared, ready to instantly restore your health.

Neve‘s entire Healing skill tree, the icon nev abi healSoothing Potion, is skilltree follower skill lockedlocked for the rest of the game. If you previously invested skill points into it, they will be refunded.

icon nev abi iceshatterIcebreaker Ability — Passives Boosted

There are no changes to icon nev abi iceshatterIcebreaker (Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type cold Cold damage, Detonates dragon age the veilguard status effect sundered Sundered, Fires 6 projectiles at targets), but two of its Passives get boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Chill Out
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%

skillnode boost minorpassive utility

Early Winter
Companion Passive Skill

Cooldown duration: -15%

icon nev abi blizzardBlizzard Ability — Passives Boosted

There are no changes to icon nev abi blizzardBlizzard (Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type cold Cold damage, Deals damage each second to all enemies in the area of effect), but two of its Passives get boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Brittle
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%

skillnode boost minorpassive utility

Numb
Companion Passive Skill

Cooldown duration: -15%

icon nev abi glacialpaceGlacial Pace Ability — Passives Boosted

There are no changes to icon nev abi glacialpaceGlacial Pace (Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type cold Cold damage, Applies dragon age the veilguard status effect weakenedWeakened, Stops enemies in their tracks), but two of its Passives get boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive utility

Cold Snap
Companion Passive Skill

Cooldown duration: -15%

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Barrier Buster
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%

Just like with Neve, Lucanis‘s Healing ability tree is no longer available, but all of his Damage vs. Barrier Passives for other Abilities get buffed (the game doesn’t specify by how much).

Note that Lucanis gets less Passives boosted with ico hardeningHardened, compared to Neve.

icon luc abi soothingpotionSoothing Potion Ability — skilltree follower skill lockedLocked

icon luc abi soothingpotion

Soothing Potion, Healing
Companion Ability
Cooldown: 48 Seconds

A Talon is ready for anything and never without a potent concoction on hand.
Lucanis tosses a restorative tincture to you, granting Rejuvenation.

Lucanis‘s entire Healing skill tree, the icon luc abi soothingpotionSoothing Potion, is skilltree follower skill lockedlocked for the rest of the game. If you previously invested skill points into it, they will be refunded.

icon luc abi crumpleAbominate Ability — Passive Boosted

There are no changes to icon luc abi crumpleAbominate (Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type necrotic Necrotic damage, Deals high Barrier damage and applies Knocked Down to enemies in the area), but one of its Passives deeper into the tree is boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Schism
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%

icon luc abi eviscerateEviscerate Ability — Passive Boosted

There are no changes to icon luc abi eviscerateEviscerate (Detonates dragon age the veilguard status effect overwhelm Overwhelm, Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type necrotic Necrotic damage, and Deals bonus damage at half health or less), but one of its Passives deeper into the tree is boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Mage Bane
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%

icon luc abi debilitateDebilitate Ability — Passive Boosted

There are no changes to icon luc abi debilitateDebilitate (Applies dragon age the veilguard status effect sundered Sundered, Deals dragon age the veilguard damage type necrotic Necrotic damage, and Deals high Stagger), but one of its Passives deeper into the tree is boosted:

skillnode boost minorpassive offense

Barrier Buster
Companion Passive Skill

Damage vs. Barrier: +50%


Feel free to use our Skill Tree Calculator to locate these skills and plan around them!

  • The companion you do not assist will become unavailable until you recruit the rest of the Companions by progressing further into the story.
  • Even when they return, they will remain ico hardeningHardened, and your relationship progress with them will be slower overall. Don’t worry, though — even without the extra effort you are still likely to reach bond level 8-9 with them by the end of the game, so you won’t miss out on any content.

That being said, there is one notable difference when it comes to Romance:

  • icon convowheel romanceYou can still pursue Romance with Hardened Neve.
  • icon convowheel breakupYou cannot pursue Romance with Hardened Lucanis.

Yes, you are seeing this right: you will even get a notification that Lucanis “no longer has time for a romance with you”, which is not the case with Neve, whose Romance storyline barely sees any changes at all (you will not miss out on any content).

It is possible that either of these gets patched in the future updates, but for right now this is an important distinction to keep in mind if you wanted to try out the Romance storyline with Lucanis. Note that he will still attempt to pursue his NPC romance with Neve later on regardless, if you aren’t romantically involved with her.


If you want the full list of effects besides those affecting your two Companions, including some missable items, you should check out our Treviso vs. Minrathous guide!

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Dedicated contributor at EIP Gaming and a part-time collector of books she will never have time to actually read. Jumps on the newest releases just as quickly as on the uncovered dusty collections from the basement. For her, shiny graphics can never be an excuse to not have a polished player experience or an immersive story.

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